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Непрочетено мнение Публикувано на: 08 Мар 2018, 12:17       Заглавие:  Съдебните практики по света...
 
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По горе "МИНАВАЩ"беше казал, че законът при тях е толкова обстоятелствено описан, че не допуска тълкувателни двусмислици.

Няма такова нещо. Категорично! Ако решат модераторите за целесъобразно, да отворят нова тема за закона и съдебните практики в Щатите, за да не оспамваме всички теми с... как е у нас, а как е там.

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Непрочетено мнение Публикувано на: 08 Мар 2018, 12:20       Заглавие:  Re: Съдебните практики по света...
 
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това съм го пропуснал...кефи ме истиски с бруталността си!

...требва да има тема тука бисери или брутализми!

Престави си го това в такава тема...как да учиме българския съд да съди :DD :shock:
признах те братче! това е посегателство което на мен и на сън не мое да ми хрумне...

Просто не требва да им се оставя много да тълкуват нещата...по прецизни закони...ама нали пак те ги пишат....и кръга се затваря...

айде оспори я - черпиш права от неправомерно поведение!? леко! къде дават така?
Ако се закачиш с юрист като нея ще се изпишат гига байти и пак нищо..."сам с действията си, си е причинил страх и затова не се доверила на страховата експертиза....буахахха

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По-скоро трябва да се обърне внимание на начините на съдене от българския съд.
Щото не може председател на съдийски състава да ми казва, че действията в условията на сто процентова неизбежна отбрана /случая с Лисичков/ били по начало неправомерни, и деецът нямало как да черпи от тях права

Прецизните (донякъде) закони са причината толкова дела срещу полицаи в последните години да не стигнат до присъда, защото въпреки какво мисли за ситуацията, журито няма как да не приеме фактите и да не приложи към дефинициите. Не ги питат те какво чувстват по въпроса, а дали са покрити елементите на деянието.


 
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Непрочетено мнение Публикувано на: 08 Мар 2018, 12:22       Заглавие:  Re: Съдебните практики по света...
 
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тука ше трябва да се извади отклонението от другата тема...за доживотната присъда при застреляните крадци чакани на пусия в мазата на онази къща в сащ...
като имам време ще ги сложа тука...и ще изтрия тоя пост


 
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Непрочетено мнение Публикувано на: 08 Мар 2018, 21:16       Заглавие:  Re: Съдебните практики по света...
 
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kanartikin написа:
По горе "МИНАВАЩ"беше казал, че законът при тях е толкова обстоятелствено описан, че не допуска тълкувателни двусмислици.

Няма такова нещо. Категорично! Ако решат модераторите за целесъобразно, да отворят нова тема за закона и съдебните практики в Щатите, за да не оспамваме всички теми с... как е у нас, а как е там.

Може би го бъркаш с "неспазване на закона". За 35 години живот в САЩ не съм чул да има "тълкуване" на закон. Неспазване или "отричане" на закон (предполагам не сте фамилиарни с отричане на закон) няма нищо общо с "тълкуване".


 
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Непрочетено мнение Публикувано на: 09 Мар 2018, 04:31       Заглавие:  Re: Съдебните практики по света...
 
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Деа мааму, сека едно 30 метрово дърво и не следя редовно какво става тук.

Ето един кратък нагледен пример за какво говоря.
Флодския закон за отбраната (включва и полицията)
CHAPTER 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE
776.012 Use or threatened use of force in defense of person.
776.013 Home protection; use or threatened use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.
776.031 Use or threatened use of force in defense of property.
776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use or threatened use of force.
776.041 Use or threatened use of force by aggressor.
776.05 Law enforcement officers; use of force in making an arrest.
776.051 Use or threatened use of force in resisting arrest or making an arrest or in the execution of a legal duty; prohibition.
776.06 Deadly force by a law enforcement or correctional officer.
776.07 Use of force to prevent escape.
776.08 Forcible felony.
776.085 Defense to civil action for damages; party convicted of forcible or attempted forcible felony.
776.09 Retention of records pertaining to persons found to be acting in lawful self-defense; expunction of criminal history records.
776.012 Use or threatened use of force in defense of person.—
(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.
(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1188, ch. 97-102; s. 2, ch. 2005-27; s. 3, ch. 2014-195.
776.013 Home protection; use or threatened use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
(1) A person who is in a dwelling or residence in which the person has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use or threaten to use:
(a) Nondeadly force against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force; or
(b) Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
(2) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using or threatening to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used or threatened was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b) The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.
(3) The presumption set forth in subsection (2) does not apply if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force is used or threatened has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person; or
(b) The person or persons sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used or threatened; or
(c) The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force is engaged in a criminal activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further a criminal activity; or
(d) The person against whom the defensive force is used or threatened is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, residence, or vehicle in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using or threatening to use force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a law enforcement officer.
(4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
(5) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Dwelling” means a building or conveyance of any kind, including any attached porch, whether the building or conveyance is temporary or permanent, mobile or immobile, which has a roof over it, including a tent, and is designed to be occupied by people lodging therein at night.
(b) “Residence” means a dwelling in which a person resides either temporarily or permanently or is visiting as an invited guest.
(c) “Vehicle” means a conveyance of any kind, whether or not motorized, which is designed to transport people or property.
History.—s. 1, ch. 2005-27; s. 4, ch. 2014-195; s. 1, ch. 2017-77.
776.031 Use or threatened use of force in defense of property.—
(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other’s trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.
(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1189, ch. 97-102; s. 3, ch. 2005-27; s. 5, ch. 2014-195.
776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use or threatened use of force.—
(1) A person who uses or threatens to use force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in such conduct and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use or threatened use of such force by the person, personal representative, or heirs of the person against whom the force was used or threatened, unless the person against whom force was used or threatened is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using or threatening to use force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use or threatened use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using or threatening to use force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used or threatened was unlawful.
(3) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).
(4) In a criminal prosecution, once a prima facie claim of self-defense immunity from criminal prosecution has been raised by the defendant at a pretrial immunity hearing, the burden of proof by clear and convincing evidence is on the party seeking to overcome the immunity from criminal prosecution provided in subsection (1).
History.—s. 4, ch. 2005-27; s. 6, ch. 2014-195; s. 1, ch. 2017-72.
776.041 Use or threatened use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use or threatened use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force or threat of force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use or threatened use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use or threatened use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use or threatened use of force.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1190, ch. 97-102; s. 7, ch. 2014-195.
776.05 Law enforcement officers; use of force in making an arrest.—A law enforcement officer, or any person whom the officer has summoned or directed to assist him or her, need not retreat or desist from efforts to make a lawful arrest because of resistance or threatened resistance to the arrest. The officer is justified in the use of any force:
(1) Which he or she reasonably believes to be necessary to defend himself or herself or another from bodily harm while making the arrest;
(2) When necessarily committed in retaking felons who have escaped; or
(3) When necessarily committed in arresting felons fleeing from justice. However, this subsection shall not constitute a defense in any civil action for damages brought for the wrongful use of deadly force unless the use of deadly force was necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by such flight and, when feasible, some warning had been given, and:
(a) The officer reasonably believes that the fleeing felon poses a threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer or others; or
(b) The officer reasonably believes that the fleeing felon has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm to another person.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1, ch. 75-64; s. 1, ch. 87-147; s. 54, ch. 88-381; s. 1191, ch. 97-102.
776.051 Use or threatened use of force in resisting arrest or making an arrest or in the execution of a legal duty; prohibition.—
(1) A person is not justified in the use or threatened use of force to resist an arrest by a law enforcement officer, or to resist a law enforcement officer who is engaged in the execution of a legal duty, if the law enforcement officer was acting in good faith and he or she is known, or reasonably appears, to be a law enforcement officer.
(2) A law enforcement officer, or any person whom the officer has summoned or directed to assist him or her, is not justified in the use of force if the arrest or execution of a legal duty is unlawful and known by him or her to be unlawful.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1192, ch. 97-102; s. 1, ch. 2008-67; s. 8, ch. 2014-195.
776.06 Deadly force by a law enforcement or correctional officer.—
(1) As applied to a law enforcement officer or correctional officer acting in the performance of his or her official duties, the term “deadly force” means force that is likely to cause death or great bodily harm and includes, but is not limited to:
(a) The firing of a firearm in the direction of the person to be arrested, even though no intent exists to kill or inflict great bodily harm; and
(b) The firing of a firearm at a vehicle in which the person to be arrested is riding.
(2)(a) The term “deadly force” does not include the discharge of a firearm by a law enforcement officer or correctional officer during and within the scope of his or her official duties which is loaded with a less-lethal munition. As used in this subsection, the term “less-lethal munition” means a projectile that is designed to stun, temporarily incapacitate, or cause temporary discomfort to a person without penetrating the person’s body.
(b) A law enforcement officer or a correctional officer is not liable in any civil or criminal action arising out of the use of any less-lethal munition in good faith during and within the scope of his or her official duties.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1, ch. 99-272; s. 9, ch. 2014-195.
776.07 Use of force to prevent escape.—
(1) A law enforcement officer or other person who has an arrested person in his or her custody is justified in the use of any force which he or she reasonably believes to be necessary to prevent the escape of the arrested person from custody.
(2) A correctional officer or other law enforcement officer is justified in the use of force, including deadly force, which he or she reasonably believes to be necessary to prevent the escape from a penal institution of a person whom the officer reasonably believes to be lawfully detained in such institution under sentence for an offense or awaiting trial or commitment for an offense.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 7, ch. 95-283; s. 1193, ch. 97-102.
776.08 Forcible felony.—“Forcible felony” means treason; murder; manslaughter; sexual battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 4, ch. 75-298; s. 289, ch. 79-400; s. 5, ch. 93-212; s. 10, ch. 95-195.
776.085 Defense to civil action for damages; party convicted of forcible or attempted forcible felony.—
(1) It shall be a defense to any action for damages for personal injury or wrongful death, or for injury to property, that such action arose from injury sustained by a participant during the commission or attempted commission of a forcible felony. The defense authorized by this section shall be established by evidence that the participant has been convicted of such forcible felony or attempted forcible felony, or by proof of the commission of such crime or attempted crime by a preponderance of the evidence.
(2) For the purposes of this section, the term “forcible felony” shall have the same meaning as in s. 776.08.
(3) Any civil action in which the defense recognized by this section is raised shall be stayed by the court on the motion of the civil defendant during the pendency of any criminal action which forms the basis for the defense, unless the court finds that a conviction in the criminal action would not form a valid defense under this section.
(4) In any civil action where a party prevails based on the defense created by this section:
(a) The losing party, if convicted of and incarcerated for the crime or attempted crime, shall, as determined by the court, lose any privileges provided by the correctional facility, including, but not limited to:
1. Canteen purchases;
2. Telephone access;
3. Outdoor exercise;
4. Use of the library; and
5. Visitation.
(b) The court shall award a reasonable attorney’s fee to be paid to the prevailing party in equal amounts by the losing party and the losing party’s attorney; however, the losing party’s attorney is not personally responsible if he or she has acted in good faith, based on the representations of his or her client. If the losing party is incarcerated for the crime or attempted crime and has insufficient assets to cover payment of the costs of the action and the award of fees pursuant to this paragraph, the party shall, as determined by the court, be required to pay by deduction from any payments the prisoner receives while incarcerated.
(c) If the losing party is incarcerated for the crime or attempted crime, the court shall issue a written order containing its findings and ruling pursuant to paragraphs (a) and (b) and shall direct that a certified copy be forwarded to the appropriate correctional institution or facility.
History.—s. 1, ch. 87-187; s. 72, ch. 96-388.
776.09 Retention of records pertaining to persons found to be acting in lawful self-defense; expunction of criminal history records.—
(1) Whenever the state attorney or statewide prosecutor dismisses an information, indictment, or other charging document, or decides not to file an information, indictment, or other charging document because of a finding that the person accused acted in lawful self-defense pursuant to the provisions related to the justifiable use of force in this chapter, that finding shall be documented in writing and retained in the files of the state attorney or statewide prosecutor.
(2) Whenever a court dismisses an information, indictment, or other charging document because of a finding that the person accused acted in lawful self-defense pursuant to the provisions related to the justifiable use of force in this chapter, that finding shall be recorded in an order or memorandum, which shall be retained in the court’s records.
(3) Under either condition described in subsection (1) or subsection (2), the person accused may apply for a certificate of eligibility to expunge the associated criminal history record, pursuant to s. 943.0585(5), notwithstanding the eligibility requirements prescribed in s. 943.0585(1)(b) or (2).

Българския член 12:
Чл. 12. (1) Не е общественоопасно деянието, което е извършено при неизбежна отбрана - за да се защитят от непосредствено противоправно нападение държавни или обществени интереси, личността или правата на отбраняващия се или на другиго чрез причиняване вреди на нападателя в рамките на необходимите предели.
(2) Превишаване пределите на неизбежната отбрана има, когато защитата явно не съответствува на характера и опасността на нападението.
(3) (Изм. - ДВ, бр. 62 от 1997 г., изм. - ДВ, бр. 75 от 2006 г., в сила от 13.10.2006 г.) Няма превишаване пределите на неизбежната отбрана, ако нападението е извършено чрез проникване с насилие или с взлом в жилище.
(4) (Предишна ал. 3 - ДВ, бр. 62 от 1997 г., изм. - ДВ, бр. 28 от 1982 г., в сила от 01.07.1982 г.) Деецът не се наказва, когато извърши деянието при превишаване пределите на неизбежната отбрана, ако това се дължи на уплаха или смущение.


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Чл. 12а. (1) (Нов - ДВ, бр. 62 от 1997 г.) Не е общественоопасно причиняването на вреди на лице, извършило престъпление при неговото задържане за предаване на органите на властта и предотвратяване на възможността за извършване на друго престъпление, ако няма друг начин за неговото задържане и ако при това задържане не е допуснато превишаване на необходимите и законосъобразни мерки.
(2) Необходимите мерки за задържане на лице, извършило престъпление, се превишават тогава, когато има явно несъответствие между характера и степента на обществената опасност на извършеното от задържаното лице престъпление и обстоятелствата по задържането, както и когато на лицето без необходимост се причинява явно прекомерна вреда. В тези случаи наказателна отговорност се носи само в случаите на умишлено причиняване на вредата.


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Чл. 12б. (Нов - ДВ, бр. 32 от 2010 г., в сила от 28.05.2010 г.) Не е общественоопасно деянието, извършено от лице, което е действало като служител под прикритие в рамките на определените му правомощия по закон.

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CHAPTER 810
BURGLARY AND TRESPASS
810.011 Definitions.
810.015 Legislative findings and intent; burglary.
810.02 Burglary.
810.06 Possession of burglary tools.
810.061 Impairing or impeding telephone or power to a dwelling; facilitating or furthering a burglary; penalty.
810.07 Prima facie evidence of intent.
810.08 Trespass in structure or conveyance.
810.09 Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.
810.095 Trespass on school property with firearm or other weapon prohibited.
810.097 Trespass upon grounds or facilities of a school; penalties; arrest.
810.0975 School safety zones; definition; trespass prohibited; penalty.
810.10 Posted land; removing notices unlawful; penalty.
810.11 Placing signs adjacent to highways; penalty.
810.115 Breaking or injuring fences.
810.12 Unauthorized entry on land; prima facie evidence of trespass.
810.125 Injury to certain trespassers on agricultural land; recovery limited.
810.13 Cave vandalism and related offenses.
810.14 Voyeurism prohibited; penalties.
810.145 Video voyeurism.
810.011 Definitions.—As used in this chapter:
(1) “Structure” means a building of any kind, either temporary or permanent, which has a roof over it, together with the curtilage thereof. However, during the time of a state of emergency declared by executive order or proclamation of the Governor under chapter 252 and within the area covered by such executive order or proclamation and for purposes of ss. 810.02 and 810.08 only, the term means a building of any kind or such portions or remnants thereof as exist at the original site, regardless of absence of a wall or roof.
(2) “Dwelling” means a building or conveyance of any kind, including any attached porch, whether such building or conveyance is temporary or permanent, mobile or immobile, which has a roof over it and is designed to be occupied by people lodging therein at night, together with the curtilage thereof. However, during the time of a state of emergency declared by executive order or proclamation of the Governor under chapter 252 and within the area covered by such executive order or proclamation and for purposes of ss. 810.02 and 810.08 only, the term includes such portions or remnants thereof as exist at the original site, regardless of absence of a wall or roof.
(3) “Conveyance” means any motor vehicle, ship, vessel, railroad vehicle or car, trailer, aircraft, or sleeping car; and “to enter a conveyance” includes taking apart any portion of the conveyance. However, during the time of a state of emergency declared by executive order or proclamation of the Governor under chapter 252 and within the area covered by such executive order or proclamation and for purposes of ss. 810.02 and 810.08 only, the term “conveyance” means a motor vehicle, ship, vessel, railroad vehicle or car, trailer, aircraft, or sleeping car or such portions thereof as exist.
(4) An act is committed “in the course of committing” if it occurs in an attempt to commit the offense or in flight after the attempt or commission.
(5)(a) “Posted land” is that land upon which:
1. Signs are placed not more than 500 feet apart along, and at each corner of, the boundaries of the land, upon which signs there appears prominently, in letters of not less than 2 inches in height, the words “no trespassing” and in addition thereto the name of the owner, lessee, or occupant of said land. Said signs shall be placed along the boundary line of posted land in a manner and in such position as to be clearly noticeable from outside the boundary line; or
2.a. Conspicuous no trespassing notice is painted on trees or posts on the property, provided that the notice is:
(I) Painted in an international orange color and displaying the stenciled words “No Trespassing” in letters no less than 2 inches high and 1 inch wide either vertically or horizontally;
(II) Placed so that the bottom of the painted notice is not less than 3 feet from the ground or more than 5 feet from the ground; and
(III) Placed at locations that are readily visible to any person approaching the property and no more than 500 feet apart on agricultural land.
b. Beginning October 1, 2007, when a landowner uses the painted no trespassing posting to identify a “no trespassing” area, those painted notices shall be accompanied by signs complying with subparagraph 1. and placed conspicuously at all places where entry to the property is normally expected or known to occur.
(b) It shall not be necessary to give notice by posting on any enclosed land or place not exceeding 5 acres in area on which there is a dwelling house in order to obtain the benefits of ss. 810.09 and 810.12 pertaining to trespass on enclosed lands.
(6) “Cultivated land” is that land which has been cleared of its natural vegetation and is presently planted with a crop, orchard, grove, pasture, or trees or is fallow land as part of a crop rotation.
(7) “Fenced land” is that land which has been enclosed by a fence of substantial construction, whether with rails, logs, post and railing, iron, steel, barbed wire, other wire, or other material, which stands at least 3 feet in height. For the purpose of this chapter, it shall not be necessary to fence any boundary or part of a boundary of any land which is formed by water.
(8) Where lands are posted, cultivated, or fenced as described herein, then said lands, for the purpose of this chapter, shall be considered as enclosed and posted.
(9) “Litter” means any garbage, rubbish, trash, refuse, debris, can, bottle, box, container, paper, tobacco product, tire, domestic or commercial appliance, mechanical equipment or part, building or construction material, tool, machinery, wood, motor vehicle or motor vehicle part, vessel, aircraft, or farm machinery or equipment; sludge from a waste treatment facility, water supply treatment plant, or air pollution control facility; or substance in any form resulting from domestic, industrial, commercial, mining, agricultural, or governmental operations.
(10) “Dump” means to dump, throw, discard, place, deposit, or dispose of any litter.
(11) “Commercial horticulture property” means any property that is cleared of its natural vegetation and is planted in commercially cultivated horticulture products that are planted, grown, or harvested. The term also includes property that is used for the commercial sale, use, or distribution of horticulture products.
(12) “Agricultural chemicals manufacturing facility” means any facility, and any properties or structures associated with the facility, used for the manufacture, processing, or storage of agricultural chemicals classified in Industry Group 287 contained in the Standard Industrial Classification Manual, 1987, as published by the Office of Management and Budget, Executive Office of the President.
(13) “Construction site” means any property upon which there is construction that is subject to building permit posting requirements.
History.—s. 30, ch. 74-383; s. 1, ch. 76-46; s. 1, ch. 82-87; s. 1, ch. 92-351; s. 1, ch. 94-263; s. 1, ch. 94-307; s. 47, ch. 96-388; s. 13, ch. 99-188; s. 3, ch. 2001-182; s. 49, ch. 2001-279; s. 15, ch. 2006-289; s. 1, ch. 2007-123; s. 4, ch. 2007-244.
810.015 Legislative findings and intent; burglary.—
(1) The Legislature finds that the case of Delgado v. State, 776 So. 2d 233 (Fla. 2000), was decided contrary to legislative intent and the case law of this state relating to burglary prior to Delgado v. State. The Legislature finds that in order for a burglary to occur, it is not necessary for the licensed or invited person to remain in the dwelling, structure, or conveyance surreptitiously.
(2) It is the intent of the Legislature that the holding in Delgado v. State, 776 So. 2d 233 (Fla. 2000) be nullified. It is further the intent of the Legislature that s. 810.02(1)(a) be construed in conformity with Raleigh v. State, 705 So. 2d 1324 (Fla. 1997); Jimenez v. State, 703 So. 2d 437 (Fla. 1997); Robertson v. State, 699 So. 2d 1343 (Fla. 1997); Routly v. State, 440 So. 2d 1257 (Fla. 1983); and Ray v. State, 522 So. 2d 963 (Fla. 3rd DCA, 1988). This subsection shall operate retroactively to February 1, 2000.
(3) It is further the intent of the Legislature that consent remain an affirmative defense to burglary and that the lack of consent may be proven by circumstantial evidence.
(4) The Legislature finds that the cases of Floyd v. State, 850 So. 2d 383 (Fla. 2002); Fitzpatrick v. State, 859 So. 2d 486 (Fla. 2003); and State v. Ruiz/State v. Braggs, Slip Opinion Nos. SC02-389/SC02-524 were decided contrary to the Legislative intent expressed in this section. The Legislature finds that these cases were decided in such a manner as to give subsection (1) no effect. The February 1, 2000, date reflected in subsection (2) does not refer to an arbitrary date relating to the date offenses were committed, but to a date before which the law relating to burglary was untainted by Delgado v. State, 776 So. 2d 233 (Fla. 2000).
(5) The Legislature provides the following special rules of construction to apply to this section:
(a) All subsections in this section shall be construed to give effect to subsection (1);
(b) Notwithstanding s. 775.021(1), this section shall be construed to give the interpretation of the burglary statute announced in Delgado v. State, 776 So. 2d 233 (Fla. 2000), and its progeny, no effect; and
(c) If language in this section is susceptible to differing constructions, it shall be construed in such manner as to approximate the law relating to burglary as if Delgado v. State, 776 So. 2d 233 (Fla. 2000) was never issued.
(6) This section shall apply retroactively.
History.—s. 1, ch. 2001-58; s. 1, ch. 2004-93.
810.02 Burglary.—
(1)(a) For offenses committed on or before July 1, 2001, “burglary” means entering or remaining in a dwelling, a structure, or a conveyance with the intent to commit an offense therein, unless the premises are at the time open to the public or the defendant is licensed or invited to enter or remain.
(b) For offenses committed after July 1, 2001, “burglary” means:
1. Entering a dwelling, a structure, or a conveyance with the intent to commit an offense therein, unless the premises are at the time open to the public or the defendant is licensed or invited to enter; or
2. Notwithstanding a licensed or invited entry, remaining in a dwelling, structure, or conveyance:
a. Surreptitiously, with the intent to commit an offense therein;
b. After permission to remain therein has been withdrawn, with the intent to commit an offense therein; or
c. To commit or attempt to commit a forcible felony, as defined in s. 776.08.
(2) Burglary is a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life imprisonment or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if, in the course of committing the offense, the offender:
(a) Makes an assault or battery upon any person; or
(b) Is or becomes armed within the dwelling, structure, or conveyance, with explosives or a dangerous weapon; or
(c) Enters an occupied or unoccupied dwelling or structure, and:
1. Uses a motor vehicle as an instrumentality, other than merely as a getaway vehicle, to assist in committing the offense, and thereby damages the dwelling or structure; or
2. Causes damage to the dwelling or structure, or to property within the dwelling or structure in excess of $1,000.
(3) Burglary is a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if, in the course of committing the offense, the offender does not make an assault or battery and is not and does not become armed with a dangerous weapon or explosive, and the offender enters or remains in a:
(a) Dwelling, and there is another person in the dwelling at the time the offender enters or remains;
(b) Dwelling, and there is not another person in the dwelling at the time the offender enters or remains;
(c) Structure, and there is another person in the structure at the time the offender enters or remains;
(d) Conveyance, and there is another person in the conveyance at the time the offender enters or remains;
(e) Authorized emergency vehicle, as defined in s. 316.003; or
(f) Structure or conveyance when the offense intended to be committed therein is theft of a controlled substance as defined in s. 893.02. Notwithstanding any other law, separate judgments and sentences for burglary with the intent to commit theft of a controlled substance under this paragraph and for any applicable possession of controlled substance offense under s. 893.13 or trafficking in controlled substance offense under s. 893.135 may be imposed when all such offenses involve the same amount or amounts of a controlled substance.
However, if the burglary is committed within a county that is subject to a state of emergency declared by the Governor under chapter 252 after the declaration of emergency is made and the perpetration of the burglary is facilitated by conditions arising from the emergency, the burglary is a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this subsection, the term “conditions arising from the emergency” means civil unrest, power outages, curfews, voluntary or mandatory evacuations, or a reduction in the presence of or response time for first responders or homeland security personnel. A person arrested for committing a burglary within a county that is subject to such a state of emergency may not be released until the person appears before a committing magistrate at a first appearance hearing. For purposes of sentencing under chapter 921, a felony offense that is reclassified under this subsection is ranked one level above the ranking under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023 of the offense committed.

(4) Burglary is a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if, in the course of committing the offense, the offender does not make an assault or battery and is not and does not become armed with a dangerous weapon or explosive, and the offender enters or remains in a:
(a) Structure, and there is not another person in the structure at the time the offender enters or remains; or
(b) Conveyance, and there is not another person in the conveyance at the time the offender enters or remains.
However, if the burglary is committed within a county that is subject to a state of emergency declared by the Governor under chapter 252 after the declaration of emergency is made and the perpetration of the burglary is facilitated by conditions arising from the emergency, the burglary is a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this subsection, the term “conditions arising from the emergency” means civil unrest, power outages, curfews, voluntary or mandatory evacuations, or a reduction in the presence of or response time for first responders or homeland security personnel. A person arrested for committing a burglary within a county that is subject to such a state of emergency may not be released until the person appears before a committing magistrate at a first appearance hearing. For purposes of sentencing under chapter 921, a felony offense that is reclassified under this subsection is ranked one level above the ranking under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023 of the offense committed.

History.—RS 2434; s. 2, ch. 4405, 1895; s. 2, ch. 5411, 1905; GS 3282; RGS 5116; CGL 7217; s. 799, ch. 71-136; s. 31, ch. 74-383; s. 21, ch. 75-298; s. 2, ch. 82-87; s. 1, ch. 83-63; s. 8, ch. 95-184; s. 2, ch. 96-260; s. 2, ch. 2000-233; s. 2, ch. 2001-58; s. 2, ch. 2003-84; s. 1, ch. 2007-115; s. 21, ch. 2011-141; s. 40, ch. 2016-105; s. 28, ch. 2016-145.
810.06 Possession of burglary tools.—Whoever has in his or her possession any tool, machine, or implement with intent to use the same, or allow the same to be used, to commit any burglary or trespass shall be guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
History.—s. 30, sub-ch. 4, ch. 1637, 1868; RS 2439; GS 3286; RGS 5120; CGL 7221; s. 804, ch. 71-136; s. 32, ch. 74-383; s. 22, ch. 75-298; s. 1232, ch. 97-102.
810.061 Impairing or impeding telephone or power to a dwelling; facilitating or furthering a burglary; penalty.—
(1) As used in this section, the term “burglary” has the meaning ascribed in s. 810.02(1)(b).
(2) A person who, for the purpose of facilitating or furthering the commission or attempted commission of a burglary of a dwelling by any person, damages a wire or line that transmits or conveys telephone or power to that dwelling, impairs any other equipment necessary for telephone or power transmission or conveyance, or otherwise impairs or impedes such telephone or power transmission or conveyance commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
History.—s. 1, ch. 2003-84.
810.07 Prima facie evidence of intent.—
(1) In a trial on the charge of burglary, proof of the entering of such structure or conveyance at any time stealthily and without consent of the owner or occupant thereof is prima facie evidence of entering with intent to commit an offense.
(2) In a trial on the charge of attempted burglary, proof of the attempt to enter such structure or conveyance at any time stealthily and without the consent of the owner or occupant thereof is prima facie evidence of attempting to enter with intent to commit an offense.
History.—s. 5, ch. 4405, 1895; GS 3287; RGS 5121; CGL 7222; s. 1, ch. 70-29; s. 33, ch. 74-383; s. 44, ch. 87-243.
810.08 Trespass in structure or conveyance.—
(1) Whoever, without being authorized, licensed, or invited, willfully enters or remains in any structure or conveyance, or, having been authorized, licensed, or invited, is warned by the owner or lessee of the premises, or by a person authorized by the owner or lessee, to depart and refuses to do so, commits the offense of trespass in a structure or conveyance.
(2)(a) Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, trespass in a structure or conveyance is a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(b) If there is a human being in the structure or conveyance at the time the offender trespassed, attempted to trespass, or was in the structure or conveyance, the trespass in a structure or conveyance is a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(c) If the offender is armed with a firearm or other dangerous weapon, or arms himself or herself with such while in the structure or conveyance, the trespass in a structure or conveyance is a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. Any owner or person authorized by the owner may, for prosecution purposes, take into custody and detain, in a reasonable manner, for a reasonable length of time, any person when he or she reasonably believes that a violation of this paragraph has been or is being committed, and he or she reasonably believes that the person to be taken into custody and detained has committed or is committing such violation. In the event a person is taken into custody, a law enforcement officer shall be called as soon as is practicable after the person has been taken into custody. The taking into custody and detention by such person, if done in compliance with the requirements of this paragraph, shall not render such person criminally or civilly liable for false arrest, false imprisonment, or unlawful detention.
(3) As used in this section, the term “person authorized” means any owner or lessee, or his or her agent, or any law enforcement officer whose department has received written authorization from the owner or lessee, or his or her agent, to communicate an order to depart the property in the case of a threat to public safety or welfare.
History.—s. 34, ch. 74-383; s. 22, ch. 75-298; s. 2, ch. 76-46; s. 1, ch. 77-132; s. 33, ch. 88-381; s. 185, ch. 91-224; s. 1233, ch. 97-102; s. 4, ch. 2000-369.
810.09 Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.—
(1)(a) A person who, without being authorized, licensed, or invited, willfully enters upon or remains in any property other than a structure or conveyance:
1. As to which notice against entering or remaining is given, either by actual communication to the offender or by posting, fencing, or cultivation as described in s. 810.011; or
2. If the property is the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling and the offender enters or remains with the intent to commit an offense thereon, other than the offense of trespass,
commits the offense of trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance.

(b) As used in this section, the term “unenclosed curtilage” means the unenclosed land or grounds, and any outbuildings, that are directly and intimately adjacent to and connected with the dwelling and necessary, convenient, and habitually used in connection with that dwelling.
(2)(a) Except as provided in this subsection, trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance is a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(b) If the offender defies an order to leave, personally communicated to the offender by the owner of the premises or by an authorized person, or if the offender willfully opens any door, fence, or gate or does any act that exposes animals, crops, or other property to waste, destruction, or freedom; unlawfully dumps litter on property; or trespasses on property other than a structure or conveyance, the offender commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(c) If the offender is armed with a firearm or other dangerous weapon during the commission of the offense of trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance, he or she is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. Any owner or person authorized by the owner may, for prosecution purposes, take into custody and detain, in a reasonable manner, for a reasonable length of time, any person when he or she reasonably believes that a violation of this paragraph has been or is being committed, and that the person to be taken into custody and detained has committed or is committing the violation. If a person is taken into custody, a law enforcement officer shall be called as soon as is practicable after the person has been taken into custody. The taking into custody and detention in compliance with the requirements of this paragraph does not result in criminal or civil liability for false arrest, false imprisonment, or unlawful detention.
(d) The offender commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property trespassed is a construction site that is:
1. Greater than 1 acre in area and is legally posted and identified in substantially the following manner: “THIS AREA IS A DESIGNATED CONSTRUCTION SITE, AND ANYONE WHO TRESPASSES ON THIS PROPERTY COMMITS A FELONY.”; or
2. One acre or less in area and is identified as such with a sign that appears prominently, in letters of not less than 2 inches in height, and reads in substantially the following manner: “THIS AREA IS A DESIGNATED CONSTRUCTION SITE, AND ANYONE WHO TRESPASSES ON THIS PROPERTY COMMITS A FELONY.” The sign shall be placed at the location on the property where the permits for construction are located. For construction sites of 1 acre or less as provided in this subparagraph, it shall not be necessary to give notice by posting as defined in s. 810.011(5).
(e) The offender commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property trespassed upon is commercial horticulture property and the property is legally posted and identified in substantially the following manner: “THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR HORTICULTURE PRODUCTS, AND ANYONE WHO TRESPASSES ON THIS PROPERTY COMMITS A FELONY.”
(f) The offender commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property trespassed upon is an agricultural site for testing or research purposes that is legally posted and identified in substantially the following manner: “THIS AREA IS A DESIGNATED AGRICULTURAL SITE FOR TESTING OR RESEARCH PURPOSES, AND ANYONE WHO TRESPASSES ON THIS PROPERTY COMMITS A FELONY.”
(g) The offender commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property trespassed upon is a domestic violence center certified under s. 39.905 which is legally posted and identified in substantially the following manner: “THIS AREA IS A DESIGNATED RESTRICTED SITE AND ANYONE WHO TRESPASSES ON THIS PROPERTY COMMITS A FELONY.”
(h) Any person who in taking or attempting to take any animal described in s. 379.101(19) or (20), or in killing, attempting to kill, or endangering any animal described in s. 585.01(13) knowingly propels or causes to be propelled any potentially lethal projectile over or across private land without authorization commits trespass, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. For purposes of this paragraph, the term “potentially lethal projectile” includes any projectile launched from any firearm, bow, crossbow, or similar tensile device. This section does not apply to any governmental agent or employee acting within the scope of his or her official duties.
(i) The offender commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property trespassed upon is an agricultural chemicals manufacturing facility that is legally posted and identified in substantially the following manner: “THIS AREA IS A DESIGNATED AGRICULTURAL CHEMICALS MANUFACTURING FACILITY, AND ANYONE WHO TRESPASSES ON THIS PROPERTY COMMITS A FELONY.”
(3) As used in this section, the term “authorized person” or “person authorized” means any owner, his or her agent, or a community association authorized as an agent for the owner, or any law enforcement officer whose department has received written authorization from the owner, his or her agent, or a community association authorized as an agent for the owner, to communicate an order to leave the property in the case of a threat to public safety or welfare.
History.—s. 35, ch. 74-383; s. 22, ch. 75-298; s. 3, ch. 76-46; s. 2, ch. 80-389; s. 34, ch. 88-381; s. 186, ch. 91-224; s. 2, ch. 94-263; s. 2, ch. 94-307; s. 48, ch. 96-388; s. 1818, ch. 97-102; s. 3, ch. 97-201; s. 5, ch. 2000-369; s. 2, ch. 2001-182; s. 47, ch. 2001-279; s. 36, ch. 2002-46; s. 14, ch. 2006-289; s. 1, ch. 2006-295; s. 2, ch. 2007-123; s. 205, ch. 2008-247.
810.095 Trespass on school property with firearm or other weapon prohibited.—
(1) It is a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, for a person who is trespassing upon school property to bring onto, or to possess on, such school property any weapon as defined in s. 790.001(13) or any firearm.
(2) As used in this section, “school property” means the grounds or facility of any kindergarten, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, secondary school, career center, or postsecondary school, whether public or nonpublic.
History.—s. 1, ch. 92-130; s. 62, ch. 2004-357; s. 3, ch. 2006-186.
810.097 Trespass upon grounds or facilities of a school; penalties; arrest.—
(1) Any person who:
(a) Does not have legitimate business on the campus or any other authorization, license, or invitation to enter or remain upon school property; or
(b) Is a student currently under suspension or expulsion;
and who enters or remains upon the campus or any other facility owned by any such school commits a trespass upon the grounds of a school facility and is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(2) Any person who enters or remains upon the campus or other facility of a school after the principal of such school, or his or her designee, has directed such person to leave such campus or facility or not to enter upon the campus or facility, commits a trespass upon the grounds of a school facility and is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3) The chief administrative officer of a school, or any employee thereof designated by the chief administrative officer to maintain order on such campus or facility, who has probable cause to believe that a person is trespassing upon school grounds in violation of this section may take such person into custody and detain him or her in a reasonable manner for a reasonable length of time pending arrival of a law enforcement officer. Such taking into custody and detention by an authorized person does not render that person criminally or civilly liable for false arrest, false imprisonment, or unlawful detention. If a trespasser is taken into custody, a law enforcement officer shall be called to the scene immediately after the person is taken into custody.
(4) Any law enforcement officer may arrest either on or off the premises and without warrant any person the officer has probable cause for believing has committed the offense of trespass upon the grounds of a school facility. Such arrest shall not render the law enforcement officer criminally or civilly liable for false arrest, false imprisonment, or unlawful detention.
(5) As used in this section, the term “school” means the grounds or any facility of any kindergarten, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, or secondary school, whether public or nonpublic.
History.—s. 1, ch. 68-3; s. 1, ch. 72-10; s. 1, ch. 72-221; s. 1, ch. 77-425; s. 48, ch. 79-164; s. 1, ch. 82-3; s. 27, ch. 91-224; s. 1207, ch. 95-147; s. 1, ch. 99-147.
Note.—Former s. 228.21; s. 228.091.
810.0975 School safety zones; definition; trespass prohibited; penalty.—
(1) For the purposes of this section, the term “school safety zone” means in, on, or within 500 feet of any real property owned by or leased to any public or private elementary, middle, or high school or school board and used for elementary, middle, or high school education.
(2)(a) Each principal or designee of each public or private school in this state shall notify the appropriate law enforcement agency to prohibit any person from loitering in the school safety zone who does not have legitimate business in the school safety zone or any other authorization, or license to enter or remain in the school safety zone or does not otherwise have invitee status in the designated safety zone.
(b)1. During the period from 1 hour prior to the start of a school session until 1 hour after the conclusion of a school session, it is unlawful for any person to enter the premises or trespass within a school safety zone or to remain on such premises or within such school safety zone when that person does not have legitimate business in the school safety zone or any other authorization, license, or invitation to enter or remain in the school safety zone.
2.a. Except as provided in sub-subparagraph b., a person who violates this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
b. A person who violates this subsection and who has been previously convicted of any offense contained in chapter 874 commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(c)1. Except as provided in subparagraph 2., a person who does not have legitimate business in the school safety zone or any other authorization, license, or invitation to enter or remain in the school safety zone who shall willfully fail to remove himself or herself from the school safety zone after the principal or designee, having a reasonable belief that he or she will commit a crime or is engaged in harassment or intimidation of students entering or leaving school property, requests him or her to leave the school safety zone commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
2. A person who violates subparagraph 1. and who has been previously convicted of any offense contained in chapter 874 commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3) This section does not abridge or infringe upon the right of any person to peaceably assemble and protest.
(4) This section does not apply to residents or persons engaged in the operation of a licensed commercial business within the school safety zone.
History.—s. 1, ch. 2002-192; s. 1, ch. 2013-80.
810.10 Posted land; removing notices unlawful; penalty.—
(1) It is unlawful for any person to willfully remove, destroy, mutilate, or commit any act designed to remove, mutilate, or reduce the legibility or effectiveness of any posted notice placed by the owner, tenant, lessee, or occupant of legally enclosed or legally posted land pursuant to any law of this state for the purpose of legally enclosing the same.
(2) Any person violating the provisions of this section commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
History.—ss. 1, 2, ch. 25246, 1949; s. 893, ch. 71-136; s. 36, ch. 74-383; s. 23, ch. 75-298; s. 187, ch. 91-224; s. 5, ch. 2007-244.
Note.—Former s. 821.071.
810.11 Placing signs adjacent to highways; penalty.—
(1) All persons are prohibited from placing, posting, or erecting signs upon land or upon trees upon land adjacent to or adjoining all public highways of the state, without the written consent of the owner of such land, or the written consent of the attorney or agent of such owner.
(2) Every person convicted of a violation of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
History.—ss. 1, 2, ch. 13801, 1929; CGL 1936 Supp. 7433(1); s. 892, ch. 71-136; s. 37, ch. 74-383; s. 24, ch. 75-298; s. 188, ch. 91-224.
Note.—Former s. 821.02.
810.115 Breaking or injuring fences.—
(1) Whoever willfully and maliciously breaks down, mars, injures, defaces, cuts, or otherwise creates or causes to be created an opening, gap, interruption, or break in any fence, or any part thereof, belonging to or enclosing land not his or her own, or whoever causes to be broken down, marred, injured, defaced, or cut any fence belonging to or enclosing land not his or her own, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. A person who commits a second or subsequent offense under this subsection commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) If the offender breaks or injures a fence as provided in subsection (1) and the fence or any part thereof is used to contain animals at the time of the offense, the offender commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) The court may require full compensation to the owner of the fence for any and all damages or losses resulting directly or indirectly from the act or commission pursuant to s. 775.089.
History.—s. 1, ch. 78-256; s. 35, ch. 88-381; s. 189, ch. 91-224; s. 5, ch. 93-37; s. 1234, ch. 97-102; s. 1, ch. 2003-50; s. 6, ch. 2007-244.
810.12 Unauthorized entry on land; prima facie evidence of trespass.—
(1) The unauthorized entry by any person into or upon any enclosed and posted land shall be prima facie evidence of the intention of such person to commit an act of trespass.
(2) The act of entry upon enclosed and posted land without permission of the owner of said land by any worker, servant, employee, or agent while actually engaged in the performance of his or her work or duties incident to such employment and while under the supervision or direction, or through the procurement, of any other person acting as supervisor, foreman, employer, or principal, or in any other capacity, shall be prima facie evidence of the causing, and of the procurement, of such act by the supervisor, foreman, employer, principal, or other person.
(3) The act committed by any person or persons of taking, transporting, operating, or driving, or the act of permitting or consenting to the taking or transporting of, any machine, tool, motor vehicle, or draft animal into or upon any enclosed and posted land without the permission of the owner of said land by any person who is not the owner of such machine, tool, vehicle, or animal, but with the knowledge or consent of the owner of such machine, tool, vehicle, or animal, or of the person then having the right to possession thereof, shall be prima facie evidence of the intent of such owner of such machine, tool, vehicle, or animal, or of the person then entitled to the possession thereof, to cause or procure an act of trespass.
(4) As used herein, the term “owner of said land” shall include the beneficial owner, lessee, occupant, or other person having any interest in said land under and by virtue of which that person is entitled to possession thereof, and shall also include the agents or authorized employees of such owner.
(5) However, this section shall not apply to any official or employee of the state or a county, municipality, or other governmental agency now authorized by law to enter upon lands or to registered engineers and surveyors and mappers authorized to enter lands pursuant to ss. 471.027 and 472.029. The provisions of this section shall not apply to the trimming or cutting of trees or timber by municipal or private public utilities, or their employees, contractors, or subcontractors, when such trimming is required for the establishment or maintenance of the service furnished by any such utility.
(6) The unlawful dumping by any person of any litter in violation of s. 403.413(4) is prima facie evidence of the intention of such person to commit an act of trespass. If any waste that is dumped in violation of s. 403.413(4) is discovered to contain any article, including, but not limited to, a letter, bill, publication, or other writing that displays the name of a person thereon, addressed to such person or in any other manner indicating that the article last belonged to such person, that discovery raises a mere inference that the person so identified has violated this section. If the court finds that the discovery of the location of the article is corroborated by the existence of an independent fact or circumstance which, standing alone, would constitute evidence sufficient to prove a violation of s. 403.413(4), such person is rebuttably presumed to have violated that section.
History.—s. 4, ch. 76-46; s. 123, ch. 94-119; s. 3, ch. 94-263; s. 1235, ch. 97-102.
810.125 Injury to certain trespassers on agricultural land; recovery limited.—A person or organization owning, controlling, or possessing an interest in agricultural real property, or an agent of such person or organization, shall not be held liable for negligence related to such property that results in the death of, injury to, or damage to a person who has engaged or is engaging in conduct on the property that is unlawful under either s. 810.10 or s. 810.115 or unlawful trespassing by such person incident to such conduct on the property.
History.—s. 3, ch. 2007-244.
810.13 Cave vandalism and related offenses.—
(1) DEFINITIONS.—As used in this act:
(a) “Cave” means any void, cavity, recess, or system of interconnecting passages which naturally occurs beneath the surface of the earth or within a cliff or ledge, including natural subsurface water and drainage systems but not including any mine, tunnel, aqueduct, or other manmade excavation, and which is large enough to permit a person to enter. The word “cave” includes any cavern, natural pit, or sinkhole which is an extension of an entrance to a cave.
(b) “Cave life” means any life form which is indigenous to a cave or to a cave ecosystem.
(c) “Gate” means any structure or device located to limit or prohibit access or entry to a cave.
(d) “Owner” means a person who owns title to land where a cave is located, including a person who holds a leasehold estate in such land; the state or any of its agencies, departments, boards, bureaus, commissions, or authorities; or any county, municipality, or other political subdivision of the state.
(e) “Person” means any individual, partnership, firm, association, trust, corporation, or other legal entity.
(f) “Sinkhole” means a closed topographic depression or basin, generally draining underground, including, but not restricted to, a doline, limesink, or sink.
(g) “Speleogen” means an erosional feature of a cave boundary, including, but not restricted to, anastomoses, scallops, rills, flutes, spongework, or pendants.
(h) “Speleothem” means a natural mineral formation or deposit occurring in a cave, including, but not restricted to, a stalagmite, stalactite, helictite, anthodite, gypsum flower, gypsum needle, angel hair, soda straw, drapery, bacon, cave pearl, popcorn (coral), rimstone dam, column, or flowstone. Speleothems are commonly composed of calcite, epsomite, gypsum, aragonite, celestite, or other similar minerals.
(2) VANDALISM.—It is unlawful for any person, without the prior written permission of the owner, to:
(a) Break, break off, crack, carve upon, write upon, burn, mark upon, remove, or in any manner destroy, disturb, deface, mar, or harm the surfaces of any cave or any natural material which may be found therein, whether attached or broken, including speleothems, speleogens, or sedimentary deposits. This paragraph does not prohibit minimal disturbance or removal for scientific inquiry.
(b) Break, force, tamper with, or otherwise disturb a lock, gate, door, or other obstruction designed to control or prevent access to a cave, even though entrance thereto may not be gained.
(c) Remove, deface, or tamper with a sign stating that a cave is posted or citing provisions of this act.
(3) CAVE LIFE.—It is unlawful to remove, kill, harm, or otherwise disturb any naturally occurring organism within a cave, except for safety or health reasons. The provisions of this subsection do not prohibit minimal disturbance or removal of organisms for scientific inquiry.
(4) POLLUTION AND LITTERING.—It is unlawful to store in a cave any chemical or other material which may be detrimental or hazardous to the cave, to the mineral deposits therein, to the cave life therein, to the waters of the state, or to persons using such cave for any purposes. It is also unlawful to dump, litter, dispose of, or otherwise place any refuse, garbage, dead animal, sewage, trash, or other similar waste materials in a cave. This subsection shall not apply to activity which is regulated pursuant to s. 373.106, regarding the intentional introduction of water into an underground formation, or chapter 377, regarding the injection of fluids into subsurface formations in connection with oil or gas operations.
(5) SALE OF SPELEOTHEMS.—It is unlawful for any person to sell or offer for sale any speleothems in this state or to transport them for sale outside this state.
(6) PENALTIES.—Any person who violates subsection (2), subsection (3), subsection (4), or subsection (5) is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
History.—ss. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, ch. 80-356; s. 486, ch. 81-259.
810.14 Voyeurism prohibited; penalties.—
(1) A person commits the offense of voyeurism when he or she, with lewd, lascivious, or indecent intent:
(a) Secretly observes another person when the other person is located in a dwelling, structure, or conveyance and such location provides a reasonable expectation of privacy.
(b) Secretly observes another person’s intimate areas in which the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, when the other person is located in a public or private dwelling, structure, or conveyance. As used in this paragraph, the term “intimate area” means any portion of a person’s body or undergarments that is covered by clothing and intended to be protected from public view.
(2) A person who violates this section commits a misdemeanor of the first degree for the first violation, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3) A person who violates this section and who has been previously convicted or adjudicated delinquent two or more times of any violation of this section commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(4) For purposes of this section, a person has been previously convicted or adjudicated delinquent of a violation of this section if the violation resulted in a conviction sentenced separately, or an adjudication of delinquency entered separately, prior to the current offense.
History.—s. 2, ch. 98-415; s. 101, ch. 99-3; s. 1, ch. 2006-267; s. 7, ch. 2014-4.
810.145 Video voyeurism.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Broadcast” means electronically transmitting a visual image with the intent that it be viewed by another person.
(b) “Imaging device” means any mechanical, digital, or electronic viewing device; still camera; camcorder; motion picture camera; or any other instrument, equipment, or format capable of recording, storing, or transmitting visual images of another person.
(c) “Place and time when a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy” means a place and time when a reasonable person would believe that he or she could fully disrobe in privacy, without being concerned that the person’s undressing was being viewed, recorded, or broadcasted by another, including, but not limited to, the interior of a residential dwelling, bathroom, changing room, fitting room, dressing room, or tanning booth.
(d) “Privately exposing the body” means exposing a sexual organ.
(2) A person commits the offense of video voyeurism if that person:
(a) For his or her own amusement, entertainment, sexual arousal, gratification, or profit, or for the purpose of degrading or abusing another person, intentionally uses or installs an imaging device to secretly view, broadcast, or record a person, without that person’s knowledge and consent, who is dressing, undressing, or privately exposing the body, at a place and time when that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy;
(b) For the amusement, entertainment, sexual arousal, gratification, or profit of another, or on behalf of another, intentionally permits the use or installation of an imaging device to secretly view, broadcast, or record a person, without that person’s knowledge and consent, who is dressing, undressing, or privately exposing the body, at a place and time when that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy; or
(c) For the amusement, entertainment, sexual arousal, gratification, or profit of oneself or another, or on behalf of oneself or another, intentionally uses an imaging device to secretly view, broadcast, or record under or through the clothing being worn by another person, without that person’s knowledge and consent, for the purpose of viewing the body of, or the undergarments worn by, that person.
(3) A person commits the offense of video voyeurism dissemination if that person, knowing or having reason to believe that an image was created in a manner described in this section, intentionally disseminates, distributes, or transfers the image to another person for the purpose of amusement, entertainment, sexual arousal, gratification, or profit, or for the purpose of degrading or abusing another person.
(4) A person commits the offense of commercial video voyeurism dissemination if that person:
(a) Knowing or having reason to believe that an image was created in a manner described in this section, sells the image for consideration to another person; or
(b) Having created the image in a manner described in this section, disseminates, distributes, or transfers the image to another person for that person to sell the image to others.
(5) This section does not apply to any:
(a) Law enforcement agency conducting surveillance for a law enforcement purpose;
(b) Security system when a written notice is conspicuously posted on the premises stating that a video surveillance system has been installed for the purpose of security for the premises;
(c) Video surveillance device that is installed in such a manner that the presence of the device is clearly and immediately obvious; or
(d) Dissemination, distribution, or transfer of images subject to this section by a provider of an electronic communication service as defined in 18 U.S.C. s. 2510(15), or a provider of a remote computing service as defined in 18 U.S.C. s. 2711(2). For purposes of this section, the exceptions to the definition of “electronic communication” set forth in 18 U.S.C. s. 2510(12)(a), (b), (c), and (d) do not apply, but are included within the definition of the term.
(6) Except as provided in subsections (7) and (8):
(a) A person who is under 19 years of age and who violates this section commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(b) A person who is 19 years of age or older and who violates this section commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(7) A person who violates this section and who has previously been convicted of or adjudicated delinquent for any violation of this section commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(8)(a) A person who is:
1. Eighteen years of age or older who is responsible for the welfare of a child younger than 16 years of age, regardless of whether the person knows or has reason to know the age of the child, and who commits an offense under this section against that child;
2. Eighteen years of age or older who is employed at a private school as defined in s. 1002.01; a school as defined in s. 1003.01; or a voluntary prekindergarten education program as described in s. 1002.53(3)(a), (b), or (c) and who commits an offense under this section against a student of the private school, school, or voluntary prekindergarten education program; or
3. Twenty-four years of age or older who commits an offense under this section against a child younger than 16 years of age, regardless of whether the person knows or has reason to know the age of the child
commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(b) A person who violates this subsection and who has previously been convicted of or adjudicated delinquent for any violation of this section commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(9) For purposes of this section, a person has previously been convicted of or adjudicated delinquent for a violation of this section if the violation resulted in a conviction that was sentenced separately, or an adjudication of delinquency entered separately, prior to the current offense.

И българския съответен текст (не намерих нещо в БГ за проникване на чужда собственост (Trespass), която не е къща, сграда или кола, ако има такъв текст, койо го знае да го постне)

Нарушаване неприкосновеността на жилище, помещение или превозно средство (Загл. изм. - ДВ, бр. 28 от 1982 г., в сила от 01.07.1982 г.)


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Чл. 170. (1) (Изм. - ДВ, бр. 62 от 1997 г., изм. - ДВ, бр. 103 от 2004 г., в сила от 01.01.2005 г.) Който влезе в чуждо жилище, като употреби за това сила, заплашване, хитрост, ловкост, злоупотреба с власт или специални технически средства, се наказва с лишаване от свобода до три години или с пробация до шест месеца.
(2) (Изм. - ДВ, бр. 62 от 1997 г.) Ако деянието по предходната алинея е извършено нощем или от въоръжено лице, или от две или повече лица, наказанието е лишаване от свобода от една до пет години.
(3) (Нова - ДВ, бр. 28 от 1982 г., в сила от 01.07.1982 г., изм. - ДВ, бр. 62 от 1997 г.) Ако деянията по предходните алинеи са насочени срещу жилище, превозно средство или служебно помещение на лице, което се ползува с международна защита, наказанието е: по ал. 1 - лишаване от свобода от една до пет години, а по ал. 2 - лишаване от свобода от две до осем години.
(4) (Предишна ал. 3, изм. - ДВ, бр. 28 от 1982 г., в сила от 01.07.1982 г., изм. - ДВ, бр. 62 от 1997 г.) Който противозаконно остане в чуждо жилище въпреки изричната покана да го напусне, се наказва с лишаване от свобода до една година.


 
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За имунитета от граждански искове - ако се е приема версията на човека, че е действал законно, родители и роднини на убития може да заведат гражданско дело срещу него, не е автоматичен имунитет. Но съдия преглежда фактите и решава дали има някакви основания да се смята, че лицето има някаква отговорност. Ако приеме, че има такава, делото може да продължи. За съдешия обаче ще е много трудно да докаже отговорност, и ако загуби, ще трябва да плати разноските за адвокати по защитата на човека и съдебните разноски. Затова и никой не го прави.
Ъ-ъ-ъ, аз нещо се обърках от това в синьото: значи хем отбраняващият се законно се е защитавал и е умъртвил нападателя, хем пък може да носи гражданска отговорност :confused: И защо съдия решава - защо не е жури? Накратко би ли могъл да дадеш пример (не държа да е реален), при който да се случи именно това?


 
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Дред, пределно ясно виждаш, че Минаващия не ги разбира законите /все едно да хванеш наш патрулен полицай да ти тълкува нашите/... какво в крайна сметка очакваш да ти каже/ напише?! След нападение "assault" ... могат да бъдат повдигнати обвинения както от прокурор, така и да се образува "personal injury civil lawsuit"... както е и у нас с престъпленията от частен характер, където обвинението се поддържа и доказва от ПОСТРАДАЛИЯ, а не от прокуратурата. Съответно, по случая не може да бъде образувано досъдебно производство и не се води разследване от органите на МВР, доколкото законодателят е разрешил, това да се случва само за престъпленията от ОБЩ характер, нъл така?!


И, за "любимата" ни Америка, при "criminal assault case" прокурорът трябва да докаже че е било налице INTENT ... или УМИСЪЛ по нашему... при нападението срещу пострадалия /дядката си разкарал тръка, самонавивал се преди да отвее хлапетата и пр/... Минаващия казва, че при тях не се търсело УМИСЪЛ, а се разгелждало само ФАКТИТЕ... аз го питам ко тогава е CRIMINAL INTENT... и вместо да каже: "Да, тук не бях прав"... продължава да ти меля типично по милиционерски. Ти досега в спор с милиционер за нещо си... каквото и да било то... надвил ли си?!


Иначе частно дело в САЩ може да ти заведе всеки за почти всичко, но ако бъдеш подведен под отговорност за "criminal assault"... в "civil court" евентуално отиваш, след като първото ти дело приключи. Като там имат доктрина, която се нарича COLLATERAL ESTOPPEL ... където съдията решава, дали и доколко в частното дело могат да се използват доказателствата от наказателното... или всичко трябва да се доказва наново.


И още, и още... и казано честно, боли ме патката как е в Америката... това го чета от интерес и любопитство... а я вкарахме Америката и тук в играта, щото всеки втори у нас бленува за това, което е в САЩ... "Влезе ли ти в къщата - трепеш!" Като моята идея тук просто бе да се опитам да обясня, че и там не е точно така... както си го мислят мнозина.


 
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Защото тук има криминален и граждански съд (civil court) и можеш да търсиш парична компенсация за нанесени ти щети там отделно от криминалния съд, където обикновено обвиняемия лежи в затвора.
Ако примерно Джо нападне Лии на улицата, и Лии застреля Джо при самоотбрана, освен ако няма факти или свидетели, противоречащи на на твърденията му, Лии ще се прибере в къщи същата вечер и няма да има обвинение или дело.
Обаче жената на Джо, която изведнъж остава без любящото му присъствие, и демицата му остават сирачета, и тя смята, че Лии е отговорен за нейната самота, може да заведе гражданско дело срещу Лии и да иска парична компенсация за мъката си.
Намира адвокат, който завежда дело в гражданския съд. Съдия там преглежда иска и решава дали изобщо има някакви основания да не използва имунитета, гарантиран от закона за самоотбраната. Ако има все пак някакви съмнения кой какво е направил, съдията позволява на делото да продължи. Лии също наема адвокати и започват да спрат както във криминално дело какво и как може да бъде допуснато пред журито, има срещи, конференции, докато се стигне до дело с жури. През това време адвокатите си записват колко им са разходите, на тях, на експертите им, на служителите им, т.н .
Журито решава, че Лии не носи отговорност, и тогава адвокатите му си търсят парите от жената на Джо, защото е търсила под вола теле, адвокатите и също пият една студена вода и плащат от джоба си за цялото разследване и експерти, съда също си иска парите за разходите от вдовицата на Джо, защото му е губила времето с глупостите си.
По принцип това е в болшинството от случаите.
От друга страна, има голям шанс да получат пари от някоя институция. Примерно в случая със Зимерман, не са го съдили него, защото знаят ме нямат шанс, но са завели дело срещу асоциацията на собствениците в квартала, където Зимерман е бил "neighborhood watch". Обикновено такива институции инат застраховки и в 99% от случаите застрахователите плащат някаква сума за да разкарат ищците.
Не се знае колко е било споразумението в случая, обикновено се пазят в тайна.
Друг пример е Дейвид Грей, който умря след арест в Балтимор. Обвиниха 6 полицая в различни престъпления, които според прокурорката са причинили смъртта му, трима стигнаха до съд, и в трите случая журито не ги осъди, прокуратурата се усети и свали обвиненията срещу останалите.
Въореки това Балтимор плати обезщетение на семейството му, преди да се е стигнало до съд.


 
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За имунитета от граждански искове - ако се е приема версията на човека, че е действал законно, родители и роднини на убития може да заведат гражданско дело срещу него, не е автоматичен имунитет. Но съдия преглежда фактите и решава дали има някакви основания да се смята, че лицето има някаква отговорност. Ако приеме, че има такава, делото може да продължи. За съдешия обаче ще е много трудно да докаже отговорност, и ако загуби, ще трябва да плати разноските за адвокати по защитата на човека и съдебните разноски. Затова и никой не го прави.
Ъ-ъ-ъ, аз нещо се обърках от това в синьото: значи хем отбраняващият се законно се е защитавал и е умъртвил нападателя, хем пък може да носи гражданска отговорност :confused: И защо съдия решава - защо не е жури? Накратко би ли могъл да дадеш пример (не държа да е реален), при който да се случи именно това?

От любов към правната нАука, би ми се искало да разгледаме тук случая с O.J. Simpson. Симпсън е обвинен в убийството на Никол Браун и Роналд Голдмън, по което дело той бива оправдан. Роднините на Браун и Голдмън след това завеждат частно дело, което се води по стандарта на THE LESSER PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE ... демек, стандарт на по-нисък превес на доказателствата... 50,01%; съответно, журито намира Симпсън за "liable" / ОТГОВОРЕН... а съдът присъжда Симпсън да заплати на близките на жертвите скромната сума от $33,5 милиона.


Иначе, когато иде реч за self-protection... некъв чл. 505 наистина разрешава на съдията... to throw out a civil suit for a justified shooting as a matter of law before it even gets to trial. Но това не значи, че the plaintiff/ ищецът... не може да заведе частно дело за каквото друго се сети /тук съм съгласен с Минаващия/... щом ищецът набави нужната документация и си плати таксата - дело ще бъде заведено.


 
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Понеже сравняваме ...та...паралелно със случая О.Ж.Симпсон на академично ниво...може ли да ни кажеш Минаваш нещо много просто... на гражданско ниво:

Ако утре кацна във Флорида на 21г съм и започна да крада на дребно...велосопеди от мазата...дрелки и тулове от гаражите на хората...
Хващат ме доказват... съда ме осъжда...
излизам от панделата и пак на същия ден ...па ме хващат...пак ме осъждат...

на осмия път каква ще е присъдата?

Геле може да питаш и американския юрист от фейса...да сравниме с Минаващия дали ни лъже... :roll: преди това му кажи че у нас по закон излизаш след девета излежана присъда за кражба...и пак крадеш...и те утрепва лекар с незаконно ...при последното му кажи че не си пиян , луд или се ебаваш да му губиш времето...у нас тва е реал!

А и в най-либералния щат какво ще е за такива неща...че Флорида е по-строго...ок


 
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За имунитета от граждански искове - ако се е приема версията на човека, че е действал законно, родители и роднини на убития може да заведат гражданско дело срещу него, не е автоматичен имунитет. Но съдия преглежда фактите и решава дали има някакви основания да се смята, че лицето има някаква отговорност. Ако приеме, че има такава, делото може да продължи. За съдешия обаче ще е много трудно да докаже отговорност, и ако загуби, ще трябва да плати разноските за адвокати по защитата на човека и съдебните разноски. Затова и никой не го прави.
Ъ-ъ-ъ, аз нещо се обърках от това в синьото: значи хем отбраняващият се законно се е защитавал и е умъртвил нападателя, хем пък може да носи гражданска отговорност :confused: И защо съдия решава - защо не е жури? Накратко би ли могъл да дадеш пример (не държа да е реален), при който да се случи именно това?
Не съм юрист но тея неща са ми обяснявани от такъв, дано да съм коректен в примера но: Това го писахме и преди Иво, при стрелба например, имаш или нямаш Statutory Charge, който се налага или не от щатският закон, зависи от случая и до колко е ясен за разследващият орган. В някой щати имаш задължителен чардж при използване на оръжие или подобни положения, това е в допълнение към разследването. Ако разследващите преценят, че нямаш вина, нама и обвинение от щата. От тук нататъка акта на извършителя може да бъде оспорван в граждански съд от роднините на пострадалият, съдията просто решава дали има база за такъв процес въз основа на доказателствата и решението на щатските следователи или решението на делото при което обвинител е бил щата, и нататъка вече тръгва схемата със съдебните заседатели ако се отиде на граждански процес. Тея процеси са обикновенно за пари, да не се заблуждаваме... Ще се намъкне някоя печка в къщи да ми краде телевизора и някой ще го пази с пищов насочен към спалнята и като го отнеса с помпата през вратата, после роднините ще реват, че съм бил расист и ще искат обезщетение, това са масата от случаите, гражданският съд е почти винаги за пари...

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По принцип повечето полицаи във който и да е щат би трябвало да имат една книга която се ъпдейтва всяка година, казва се Criminal law and motor vehicle handbook
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Мойте полицаи ми дават старите си книги ако им ги поискам, ако не бяха толков атежки бих пратил някоя на който се интересува, това дето го е описал минаващият горе го има и в книгата, просто си е специфично за всеки щат.

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Понеже сравняваме ...та...паралелно със случая О.Ж.Симпсон на академично ниво...може ли да ни кажеш Минаваш нещо много просто... на гражданско ниво:

Ако утре кацна във Флорида на 21г съм и започна да крада на дребно...велосопеди от мазата...дрелки и тулове от гаражите на хората...
Хващат ме доказват... съда ме осъжда...
излизам от панделата и пак на същия ден ...па ме хващат...пак ме осъждат...

на осмия път каква ще е присъдата?

Геле може да питаш и американския юрист от фейса...да сравниме с Минаващия дали ни лъже... :roll: преди това му кажи че у нас по закон излизаш след девета излежана присъда за кражба...и пак крадеш...и те утрепва лекар с незаконно ...при последното му кажи че не си пиян , луд или се ебаваш да му губиш времето...у нас тва е реал!

А и в най-либералния щат какво ще е за такива неща...че Флорида е по-строго...ок

Ти пък, от самолета ще тръгнеш да краднеш!
Значи, тук проникването в сграда или кола за да крадеш само по себе си е burglary. Под сграда се разбира всичко, което е заградено и има покрив - къща, навес, палатка, дори контейнер, в който строители държат инструнентите си. Всяка burglary е углавно престъпление 3 степен, което се наказва със присъда от 1 до 5 години. Така че тия дребни кражби всъщност са сериозни.
Отделно, самите откраднати вещи също са отделно обвинение, т.е. като влезеш в къща и откраднеш телевизор, ще си обвинен във burglary, което автоматично е углавно престъпление, и сме самата кражба, която според стойността на откраднатата вещ може да бъде също felony, или misdemeanor. Misdemeanor като общо правило са за вещи под $300, и за тях се лежи от 60 дена до 1 година.
Така че, ако откраднеш колело за $290 от гараж, имаш потенциална присъда от максимум 6 години. Ако обаче колелото е $305, максималната потенциална присъда е вече 10 години. Има еднин уъркшиит, които се попълва от прокурор и според сериозността на престъплението се определя каква се препоръчва да е всъщност присъдата.
(c) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is:
1. Valued at $300 or more, but less than $5,000.
2. Valued at $5,000 or more, but less than $10,000.
3. Valued at $10,000 or more, but less than $20,000.
4. A will, codicil, or other testamentary instrument.
5. A firearm.
6. A motor vehicle, except as provided in paragraph (a).
7. Any commercially farmed animal, including any animal of the equine, bovine, or swine class or other grazing animal; a bee colony of a registered beekeeper; and aquaculture species raised at a certified aquaculture facility. If the property stolen is aquaculture species raised at a certified aquaculture facility, then a $10,000 fine shall be imposed.
8. Any fire extinguisher.
9. Any amount of citrus fruit consisting of 2,000 or more individual pieces of fruit.
10. Taken from a designated construction site identified by the posting of a sign as provided for in s. 810.09(2)(d).
11. Any stop sign.
12. Anhydrous ammonia.
13. Any amount of a controlled substance as defined in s. 893.02. Notwithstanding any other law, separate judgments and sentences for theft of a controlled substance under this subparagraph and for any applicable possession of controlled substance offense under s. 893.13 or trafficking in controlled substance offense under s. 893.135 may be imposed when all such offenses involve the same amount or amounts of a controlled substance.
However, if the property is stolen within a county that is subject to a state of emergency declared by the Governor under chapter 252, the property is stolen after the declaration of emergency is made, and the perpetration of the theft is facilitated by conditions arising from the emergency, the offender commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property is valued at $5,000 or more, but less than $10,000, as provided under subparagraph 2., or if the property is valued at $10,000 or more, but less than $20,000, as provided under subparagraph 3. As used in this paragraph, the term “conditions arising from the emergency” means civil unrest, power outages, curfews, voluntary or mandatory evacuations, or a reduction in the presence of or the response time for first responders or homeland security personnel. For purposes of sentencing under chapter 921, a felony offense that is reclassified under this paragraph is ranked one level above the ranking under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023 of the offense committed.
(d) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is valued at $100 or more, but less than $300, and is taken from a dwelling as defined in s. 810.011(2) or from the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling pursuant to s. 810.09(1).
(e) Except as provided in paragraph (d), if the property stolen is valued at $100 or more, but less than $300, the offender commits petit theft of the first degree, punishable as a misdemeanor of the first degree, as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3)(a) Theft of any property not specified in subsection (2) is petit theft of the second degree and a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and as provided in subsection (5), as applicable.
(b) A person who commits petit theft and who has previously been convicted of any theft commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(c) A person who commits petit theft and who has previously been convicted two or more times of any theft commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

Ако приемем, че само си крал колела от улицата, и са под $300, ще имаш две misdemeanor присъди за първите две колела. Най-вероятно ще минеш с пробация. Третия път ще се превърне в felony и най вероятно ще ти дадат 1-3 години затвор, и всеки следващ път ще е все по-близко до 5, което е максимума за felony 3 degree.от значение има колко време е минало от последната присъда, може директно да ти дадат 5 на четвъртия.


 
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